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LEGOLAND Florida's Future Additions by LEGOLANDfan2011-10-18 18:48:13

LEGOLANDfan
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Even though it is still very early to discuss about this, I thought it would be nice to list here all the confirmed and rumored attractions and additions that the park will receive in the near future.

2018:
- Miniland U.S.A. Expansion (CONFIRMED);
- Attention given to the Cypress Gardens area (RUMOR);

2019:
- New indoor ride (RUMOR);

If anyone has any other news or rumor, I will add those in this post.
 
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re: LEGOLAND Florida's Future Additions by Greg2011-10-19 15:08:54

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Don't forget the Scavenger Hunt and Botanical Boat Tour through the Gardens. Neither are confirmed or rumored... More like "Expected."

Also, I wonder what the "Hotel" will be like? 10 stories? Or something smaller like a grouping of several 2-story buildings? Also, there hasn't been any clues as to where it will go, but I'm betting it will be in the old animal area.
 
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re: LEGOLAND Florida's Future Additions by Chitown2011-10-19 18:17:33

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^That would make the most sense and also provide a nice view of the lake from your hotel room.
 
re: LEGOLAND Florida's Future Additions by LEGOLANDfan2011-10-19 18:20:42

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I've added the items you mentioned, Greg.

I personally would love to take a boat tour where the gardens are. I never got to experience that with Cypress Gardens either, so it would be a whole new experience for me!
 
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re: LEGOLAND Florida's Future Additions by Greg2011-10-25 15:00:48

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Might as well add the Jr. Fire Academy too since it hasn't yet opened (saw that on your blog today.) And the Panini Shop that is replacing the Fried Chicken Co. over in the Imagination Zone area.
 
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re: LEGOLAND Florida's Future Additions by Sean2011-10-25 17:59:28

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Went to the park today and noticed the Jr. Fire Academy was now open. The lights to the attraction were on and a worker was staffing the attraction...no one was riding since there weren't too many people in this area of the park when I passed by.
 
re: LEGOLAND Florida's Future Additions by LEGOLANDfan2011-10-25 19:08:58

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Interesting, thanks Sean! Today might have been the very first day of operation of the Junior Fire Academy, since it has been closed during my last visits to the park.

Also, thank you, Greg. I will add the Panini Shop to the list.
 
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re: LEGOLAND Florida's Future Additions by Greg2011-11-21 23:22:45

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Hey LegolandFan, I noticed the shields you've been waiting for at the castle are up!



Also, the Conservatory won't be open until at least January 2012.
 
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re: LEGOLAND Florida's Future Additions by LEGOLANDfan2011-11-24 07:47:12

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Yep, they are! Also, they finally installed the cover over the Big Test Theater!:



And, they have added some pieces of theming on the Forestmen's Hideout sign (I'm so attentive to details):



I will post many more photos soon. I was supposed to post a big update yesterday, but I was way too busy...
 
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re: LEGOLAND Florida's Future Additions by Greg2011-12-22 09:45:59

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According to the Facebook page, the I-Zone Panini will open this Friday!
 
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re: LEGOLAND Florida's Future Additions by LEGOLANDfan2011-12-24 07:59:56

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Great to hear that, Greg! I will update the first post then!
 
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re: LEGOLAND Florida's Future Additions by Anonymous2012-01-07 21:40:33

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This is confirmed info. The hotel will be behind market. Near the gate. There will be only one and this is confirmed. If everything go as planned construction will begin after the waterpark opens. Let's all hope for the best. I will add more info once I get it.
 
re: LEGOLAND Florida's Future Additions by Greg2012-01-07 22:08:46

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Wha...? They're building the resort in Expansion1 (behind the Market Restaurant)?



That's crazy... They need to put it in Expansion2 to get the great views of the lake! Instead they want great views... of CG Blvd?

(Or maybe you mean "the market" as being The Big Shop?)

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re: LEGOLAND Florida's Future Additions by Sean2012-01-08 20:36:49

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Based on this section from an Aug 19th 2011 article, I figured they would build the resort along the lake:

"If things go as planned, Adrian Jones, General Manager of Legoland Florida, said within five years, Legoland Florida will not only have built a high-end 250-bed luxury hotel on Lake Eloise in Winter Haven to accommodate guests, but will have worked with the communities in Polk County to develop their resort potential."

Looking at the map that Greg provided, I can see a problem with building the resort in Expansion 2: guests would have to go through the parking toll booths to reach the resort. Who wants to wait in line and pay $12.00 to check-in at the resort? Even if you had a voucher showing you're a resort guest, you would still have to wait in line. None of the other big-name parks have their resorts located within the toll parking area.
 
re: LEGOLAND Florida's Future Additions by Greg2012-01-08 21:11:05

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Looking at the map that Greg provided, I can see a problem with building the resort in Expansion 2: guests would have to go through the parking toll booths to reach the resort.

Interesting thought... But I think with a few minor changes to the parking lot/drive that problem could be alleviated. (I wish I had a satellite view of the completed park and I'd draw something up!)

Another thing about Expansion 1 is that it looks pretty tight. They could just barely get a hotel the size of the 174 room Admiral's Inn (now known as the Parkview.) And there wouldn't be any room for parking so they'd have to finagle a way to get guests to park in the main lot anyway. Another thing is that Expansion 1 is right next to many of the employee/industrial areas. Not something I'd want guests to have full view of.

Eager to see how this pans out, but I think they'd be crazy to build it anywhere but Expansion 2.
 
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re: LEGOLAND Florida's Future Additions by LEGOLANDfan2012-01-09 08:43:18

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Orlando, Florida

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Very interesting thought. I can understand why they would build the hotel behind the Marketplace restaurant. Like Sean said, if the hotel was built in the "Expansion 2" area, it would be landlocked, in the sense that it would be very difficult to reach, unless they make some very big changes to the existing parking lot (which I highly doubt).

By the way, I added the Hero Factory on my first post.
 
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re: LEGOLAND Florida's Future Additions by Ed2012-01-09 10:28:50

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Is it better to have future expansion of the park along the lake with the lake view or to put the hotel there? Is it better to have direct road access to the hotel or have access via the parking lot? All good ponts and can be debated forever.

To me what is more important then where the hotel will be built is that it is indeed going to be built. Legoland must be very happy with their attendance and success to date to finalize plans to build the hotel. That is the good news.
 
re: LEGOLAND Florida's Future Additions by Ed2012-01-09 10:50:06

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If they did build the hotel behind the marketplace, why not make the 1st two stories of the hotel parking which would then provide most rooms with a view of the lake and the park. Not to mention it will create additional parking for the hotel without using more land. The possibilities are endless!!!
 
re: LEGOLAND Florida's Future Additions by Greg2012-01-21 16:51:24

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The construction on the Conservatory has started...


Also there's lot of activity over at the i-Zone.

Turns out this will be the games area after all!


 
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re: LEGOLAND Florida's Future Additions by LEGOLANDfan2012-01-22 09:26:04

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Good to know, Greg! Also, they will be releasing new info on the waterpark soon! I'll be there and will post here the new artworks they will show us.
 
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re: LEGOLAND Florida's Future Additions by Greg2012-01-24 21:39:11

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Found this on Facebook:



Shows a good view of the parking lot and how they can finagle the resort parking! Full size image.
 
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re: LEGOLAND Florida's Future Additions by Sean2012-02-11 16:51:30

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The park has built a new lego figure outside the conservatory - an old lady with curlers in her hair watering some lego flowers. The conservatory reportedly will be used for agriculture themed displays and will open in March. LL Adding Video Game, Agriculture Areas
 
re: LEGOLAND Florida's Future Additions by Greg2012-02-11 17:04:08

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Yeah, just went today (maybe we passed each other Sean?) and got some shots of the curlers lady and the revamped Carousel. Also, turns out that the Hero Factory is NOT the big area they are constructing, but rather this smaller space to the side:




Also the Imagination I and II areas were being used for the Master Builder Competition. My son and I spent about an hour in there working on his entry. Stomer and Max came by and I got photos. Updates soon!
 
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re: LEGOLAND Florida's Future Additions by Greg2012-02-11 18:54:03

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Here's the Curlers Lady:



Here's a shot inside the Conservatory where they've added a Fresh from Florida water tank:


Here's a general view of the work being done.


Shot of the new Carousel:
 
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re: LEGOLAND Florida's Future Additions by LEGOLANDfan2012-02-12 18:04:20

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Nice photos! Thanks for the update, Greg. I haven't been in the park since two weeks. I am really missing a lot of new details!
 
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re: LEGOLAND Florida's Future Additions by chobeetuck2012-08-15 22:58:04

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Any news.....
 
re: LEGOLAND Florida's Future Additions by Ed2012-08-16 08:44:01

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"The plan is for the hotel to open in 2014 or 2015, he said. Land-use specifications for the site entitle Merlin to construct as many as 500 rooms of lodging." Since construction and opening date is a couple of years away it is a bit early for much detail or news about it.

 
re: LEGOLAND Florida's Future Additions by shuart242012-08-16 22:26:52

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Parkrumors has some blueprints of a new pirates area for Legoland. It's situated in the empty lot next to the Dragon Coaster.
 
re: LEGOLAND Florida's Future Additions by Greg2012-08-16 22:49:36

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Hmm... Very interesting!

http://parkrumors.com/legoland-fl-2013-pirates/



Oh, and I noticed something else new that the Park Rumors site didn't see. Something called "Stepping Tones" over by the entrance to the kiddie rides. Sounds fun!

Edit: So... I guess my question is: If they make that area a "Pirate" theme, what are they going to do with the existing Pirate area? There's not a whole lot of Pirate themed stuff over there aside from the show, Brickbeard's Burgers, and a few models. WHAT IF... They make the ski show part of the "Extreme" area which is nearby anyway? I guess that would end Brickbeard's show (and the pirate ship.)

Hmmm... What to do, what to do?
 
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re: LEGOLAND Florida's Future Additions by shuart242012-08-17 01:39:12

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As for me, I loathe disconnected areas. Everything pertaining to a certain theme should be grouped together. Pirate's Cove had only one attraction which felt a little forced. It would be very little trouble to retheme the show.

The idea of an "Extreme" theme sounds very appealing. The show is relatively popular and they recently changed it because the audience wanted more stunts. This theme fits in very well with surrounding attractions such as Wake Riders.

If Lego needs a theme to tie in, then what could be more fitting than the Coast Guard which is part of the Lego City set. After all, the firefighters have a stunt show. The Coast Guard could include villains, rescues and extreme stunts. Even the hang gliding would not be inappropriate.;)

I think this theme would hold appeal with young children as well as older members of the audience. Educational and exciting.
 
re: LEGOLAND Florida's Future Additions by shuart242012-08-17 02:08:25

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At least these blueprints seem to answer a lot of other questions as well.
I find it hard to believe that Legoland would encourage a land divided in two. (The pirate section was probably planned for this area for practical reasons. Plumbing, Sewers, Retention Ponds, Access Road,ect) So the ski show will probably be rethemed.

There's now room on the shore for a Star Wars miniland. The future hotel would definitely be on the lake shore as Expansion Area #1 would now be Pirate Shores.

If they're serious about the hotel and convention center, then a restored Plantation Gardens could be an elegant setting.
 
re: LEGOLAND Florida's Future Additions by Greg2012-08-17 08:21:44

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I had an idea... well two actually. The first one you already know:

1. Move all the pirate stuff (including the ship) over to the new Pirate Shores land they're building and make the ski show area all "Extreme Sports" and such. The pirate ship could be used as part of the "Interactive Play" area. Kids could climb on it and use the water canons to shoot at the riders. (Looks like that's already in the plans, just not necessarily the ski show pirate ship.)

2. Keep the Pirates Cove theme and change the new Pirates Shores area to "Alien Conquest" instead. Lego has a line of toys for this that could be promoted. Use UFOs instead of pirate ships for the battle ride and change some theme elements. It would be unique to LLF, that's for sure! And shooting streams of water is more like shooting alien lasers than shooting canon balls!

Whatever they do, I just hope they don't have two pirate areas split up...

EDIT: Well, I understand that the Alien Lego sets have been discontinued... So that makes Option #1 my favorite...
 
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re: LEGOLAND Florida's Future Additions by Greg2012-08-17 11:02:06

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There's now room on the shore for a Star Wars miniland.
No idea where that's being planned, but my guess is it'll be between the current Miniland and the lake.

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The future hotel would definitely be on the lake shore as Expansion Area #1 would now be Pirate Shores.

If they're serious about the hotel and convention center, then a restored Plantation Gardens could be an elegant setting.

Yep, definitely. So the rumor we heard about the resort being in Expansion #1 turned out to be false. The only thing that might throw a monkey wrench into them building a lakeside resort in the old animal area would be the Admiral's Inn. Will they buy it or not? (Or did they already buy it as my previous rumor suggested?)

More exciting times ahead!
 
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re: LEGOLAND Florida's Future Additions by Greg2012-08-17 18:58:55

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A couple of things I've noticed/discovered:

1. The Stepping Tones is is a musical fountain. Step on the ground and the instrument plays. They have one in Legoland DE. See here.

2. There's an arrow that goes from the Swabbies Deck to the restrooms. What on earth is that about? Perhaps it's showing the viewer that anyone going to the bathroom will have to walk past the retail, food, and game venues? Otherwise, why not put the rest/change rooms closer to the water features?

3. In the main Splash Battle pirate ride there are numbers scattered around it. I'm guessing these are splash points?

4. It's a pretty tight area, but they've managed to get in 4 new attractions (counting the Pirate Games.) Love it when there's no wasted space, but this could get pretty crowded! (Plus the Stepping Tones makes it 5 new attractions.)

5. Looks like some of the fencing will be coming down around the kiddie rides. That's a good thing! Maybe we'll get a better view of the Dragon Coaster now?

6. Cap't Cranky's is a rocking pirate ship similar to the Rockin' Tug that used to be at CG. I know it won't be the same one though.


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7. Up near the "Ride Entry" for Splash Battle is something called "Poncho Vending." So apparently you can buy some water protection for this ride!

8. Also, I don't think that the "Interactive Play" will be as elaborate as the Soak 'n' Sail that's at the CA park. S'n'S almost looks like a full-blown water park gym like the Joker Soaker over at the Water Park.
 
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re: LEGOLAND Florida's Future Additions by shuart242012-08-17 20:34:38

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The arrow looks like a radius arrow to mark circumference. They want every feature to be equidistant from a central point that just so happens to be right in front of Pirate Retail . There's a very nice flow to this land. The main attraction is obviously Splash Battle. On the way to the ride entry children are introduced to all four supporting attractions. Captain Cranky's is a dry ride for when lines are long at Splash Battle.

I'm assuming most people will get wet on the ride. The first buildings the wet guests will encounter after the exit are the restrooms and changing rooms. At that point they will have a decision. Continue on to other sections of the park or spend some time in the water playgrounds. Most guests will move on and you want to give them the option of being dry before walking past the gift shop. However some will stay. Swabbie's Deck and the Interactive Play Area are visible but separate from the main path so it shouldn't affect traffic.

Furthermore, the Pirate Shore is a little off the beaten path which should help reduce traffic and crowds. I assume most children will head toward The Dragon and work their way to the back of the park. The lead in to the planned pirate section is Duplo Village. Hardly the biggest draw in the park.

I've heard complaints from some parents of toddlers that there isn't enough for them to do. Splash Battle is a family ride for the whole family while the water playgrounds have no height limit.
 
re: LEGOLAND Florida's Future Additions by Greg2012-08-17 22:31:13

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Well, I've updated my speculation map a bit to include the changes to Expansion 1. Plus I used the updated Google satellite view for a better image:



Members can see a larger size of this image in the Maps section.
 
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re: LEGOLAND Florida's Future Additions by LEGOLANDfan2012-08-18 21:04:06

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I have also updated my original post.
 
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re: LEGOLAND Florida's Future Additions by Greg2012-08-21 08:22:49

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Cat's outta the bag!

Lakeland Ledger Story - Legoland Expanding With Rides, Shops, More

 
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re: LEGOLAND Florida's Future Additions by PR2012-08-22 18:06:44

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Am I the only one who thinks building a hotel within the park's boundaries (sacrificing park expansion land for accommodations) is a bad idea? Or at least here?

The only other precedent is set by Legoland Windsor, where they built the hotel (granted, with only 150 rooms) at the back of the park. Sure, there's the lake view, but I wonder if there would be a better option than right next to the gate?
 
re: LEGOLAND Florida's Future Additions by Ed2012-08-23 09:20:53

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Limited land and how to use it will always be an issue for LL Florida. They do need to try to keep folks around for muti-day stays and usually the best way to do that is to build a hotel on the property. Also a great way to make extra revenue for the park. It appears the hotel is a done deal as far as LL is concerned - so really no reason to discuss if they should do it or not. Besides, in the future if they need more land it will be easy to convince Polk County and the State of Florida to make modifications to the garden easements/restrictions to help a sucessful business that generates jobs, taxes and tourist dollars to grow even bigger. Nothing like generating tax and tourist dollars to make politicians very agreeable.
 
re: LEGOLAND Florida's Future Additions by Sean2012-08-23 19:23:30

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I agree with you PR...I think the lakefront land would draw more guests (and more revenue) by using it to expand the park's attractions. If guests want to spend more than a day at LL, there are plenty of hotels in the local area to do so.

If LL wants to build a resort, it doesn't have to be adjacent to the actual park; there's plenty of nearby land for sale to build a resort. It's common practice at other big-name parks to have the resorts seperated from the main parks...LL could do the same. Another option is to buy the Admiral's Inn and convert it into a LL resort.

When land is limited, it makes much more sense to use that land to expand the park's attraction lineup. A resort can always be built away from the main park...attractions can't.
 
re: LEGOLAND Florida's Future Additions by PR2012-08-23 20:42:56

PR

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Just re-read my post and I need to clarify my point:

I think a hotel at Legoland is a good thing. And I think building it on the lakefront, right next to the main entrance, would look amazing. BUT then again, the hotel could be anywhere (on or off what's already park property), and they could use that lakefront area for more park expansion.

Legoland parks have always started small and grown, and I don't see why Florida's should be any different. We're lacking a log flume, Kuka Arm attraction, and a few other things the chain likes to put in that I'm sure they're working on (hence, the Splash Battle ride). So having land for future use is going to be important. I guess the question they have to ask themselves is... "Do we want a hotel on the lakefront, or have room to add to the park?" Or also, "Do we want our hotel guests to walk, or take a shuttle, to the park?"
 
re: LEGOLAND Florida's Future Additions by shuart242012-08-24 01:04:08

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Except for the fact that Legoland FL is not small compared to the other Legoland parks. It's comparable in size to the older Legoland parks. Even the park in Germany which is surrounded by vacant land is smaller than the Florida site.

Most new rides at Florida Theme Parks replace old dated rides. Even the current Fantasyland construction is not new ground. It is the site of old attractions such as 20,000 Leagues under the Sea that never got replacements.

Legoland doesn't rely on the latest ride designs so they are under far less pressure to expand than Disney or Universal. Also most of the rides that weren't transferred are water rides. When you have a water park on site you want to encourage your guests to take advantage of it. The log flume rides at the other parks predate any water park. Water rides also require a lot of upkeep which is why Legoland Fl held off on that construction until the park proved itself.

An on site hotel is frankly the better option. Shuttles and parking just add more logistical problems. Nothing gives more relief to families with young children than to be able to take a short walk back to the hotel for a nap in the afternoon or after a full day.
 
re: LEGOLAND Florida's Future Additions by Ed2012-08-24 17:19:19

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On site hotels always get more booking and get higher prices than off-site hotels. Being right next to the action makes them unique and fills them up with tourists. LL has already announced they are building the hotel and implied it would be on-site. Sure they could now buy the Admiral Inn if the owners would even consider selling it now that LL is open - but it is old, has no view, not a resort layout, is anything but special, etc. A new resort on park property is 20 times more attractive to guests and will get a much higher room rate.

If you count in all the "easements and gaden restrictions", LL Florida is larger than the other Legolands. But the easements and restrictions make available land for future expansion limited. In other areas they didn't have to compete with many major theme parks very close - they will be forced to add more and do it more often in Florida to get repeat business than anywhere else. It looks like that is happening already. They do have the option to try get some of those easements and restricitons changed down the road and it will probably be easy to do. They could also build a parking garage to free up land - very expensive but an option.

 
re: LEGOLAND Florida's Future Additions by Sean2012-08-24 23:30:08

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LL has been trying to make the park a multi-day attraction so guests will spend more money. In my opinion, adding more attractions increases the amount of time guests will stay at the park so they can experience all it has to offer.

Currently, LL and the water park are promoted as a 2-day experience. If LL is expanded by adding more attractions, it can become a 2-day park by itself. That means when the water park closes for half the year, there are still enough attractions for guests to experience to still make LL a multi-day outing.

It all boils down to which option will bring in more money...a resort or more attractions. A resort will only serve a small portion of the overall guests visiting the park while attractions will be available to everyone. Busch Gardens and Sea World don't have resorts and have instead devoted their energies toward rides, shows, and exhibits. I think LL would do better financially if it did the same.
 
re: LEGOLAND Florida's Future Additions by shuart242012-08-25 09:30:13

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I'm sorry Sean but I'm just not buying that argument. It takes a combination of very long lines and attractions of long duration for one single park to become a multiday park. I'm even a completionist and to me the only park in Florida that earns that distinction is Magic Kingdom.
The former Cypress Gardens animal area is about the size of Lego City. So that amounts to maybe 1-2 extra hours in the park for a first time visitor? A water park may justify a second day because water parks are time wasters. A hotel by itself would bring in far more money than a handful of rides.

Not to mention if Legoland is creative and takes advantage of what they have, a hotel would offer much entertainment independent of the park. They have a giant lake on their doorstep for crying out loud! The hotel could offer boating, paddleboating, canoeing, parasailing, fishing, swimming? (I don't know about swimming restrictions in Winter Haven.) or even water skiing classes.

If they were being very creative, Legoland would create a large workroom/classroom area into the hotel that could double as convention space. The popular Mindstorms classes at the park don't have enough room and fill up very early in the day. If the hotel added, say, a two hour Mindstorms attraction complimentary for guests at the resort you could have a real motive for purchasing a room for the night. These classes could double as babysitting services and parents could enjoy some time away from their children and a cold drink by the lake side.

They could also use hotel convention space for the school group orientations and lectures. In fact much of the Imagination Zone attractions could be included in a hotel package. A hotel Game Zone and Build and Test would be very appealing to children.

Sea World already has very high quality hotels that are practically on its doorstep. It maintains a partnership with these hotels so a separate resort is unnecessary. Busch Gardens on the other hand is in a bad area of town (at least the last time I was there.) Considering this and the fact that better places to stay are within an hour's driving distance, a hotel stay is just not worth it.

A think that Legoland needs a separate ticketed attraction to justify 2 consecutive days on property. If Merlin Entertainment added a Madame Tussaud's Wax Museum and a Sea Life in the Winter Haven area as part of a Legoland package, I would be more willing to consider staying at a hotel longer.
 
re: LEGOLAND Florida's Future Additions by Sean2012-08-25 20:35:58

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I understand your point but still don't agree that a hotel will bring in more money than a park with more attractions.

The old animal area is about 6 acres in size which means you could fit enough attractions in there to equal three Pirate Shores. With a park that is only open 7 hours for much of the year, those 2 extra hours of attraction time can make all the difference in the world whether guests feel there is still enough to do to warrant a second day visit.

New attractions create a buzz and greatly increase the attendance numbers. If LL built new attractions on the lakefront property over the next several years, I think the explosion of guests wanting to check out the newest thing would eclipse the revenue from an onsite resort. Another benefit of attractions is when they become dated, they can easily be replaced with new attractions to keep the park in the limelight.

Your comment about Busch Gardens having better places to stay within an hour’s driving distance reinforces my point. If this were a major problem, don’t you think Busch would have allocated some land for an onsite resort to keep guests from driving an hour away? The park obviously decided more revenue could be achieved by using its available land for the overall guest experience versus a resort that caters to only a very limited number of guests.

If LL had plenty of land to play with, then I would be all for adding and onsite resort. Unfortunately, the park in its current state is very small and I would rather save the remaining land for park expansion. That’s just my opinion and I could be wrong. Anyway, it was nice to have someone other than ED disagreeing with me for a change.
 
re: LEGOLAND Florida's Future Additions by shuart242012-08-26 01:09:15

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One big difference between Busch Gardens and Legoland. The average age of the guests. Busch Gardens is a teenager's park. Teenagers don't tend to need naps in the middle of the day. They don't get cranky and throw temper tantrums when they're out past their bedtimes. Teenagers can spend all day at a park without a break and deal with an hour long drive.

From my own experience with my brother when he was a toddler at the parks: a hotel within walking distance can be a godsend. At both Magic Kingdom and EPCOT, my brother as a three year old had to leave the park earlier than the rest of the family. He had gotten sick at 4:00 at Magic Kingdom (too many sweets ) In Epcot at 1:00, he threw one of the worst temper tantrums of his life. We were staying at one of the resorts next door to EPCOT so it was no problem splitting the family up.

Now suppose this scenario happens to a larger family with a young child at Legoland. Splitting the family is no longer so convenient.
 
re: LEGOLAND Florida's Future Additions by shuart242012-08-26 19:02:30

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This looks interesting. Gives you an idea of how many people are involved in creating theme park attractions.

http://www.constructionjournal.com/project_view.aspx?tab=2&id=855377&t=Legoland+Florida+Expansion+2013+Pirate+Shores

For one thing, attractions are actually a drain on money. You not only have to pay development and construction costs but also operating and employee expenses. Theme Parks are very hesitant to add in a new attraction unless it has real potential to bring in an enormous amount of guests. DCA recently added Carsland because even though Disneyland is literally right next door, most people decided to skip the park. AK and DHS haven't added new rides in forever even though they are half day parks. Even IOA and Studios are half day parks. There's just no way that Legoland by itself can become a two day park.

Legoland should not even try to aspire to compete on Disney and Universal's level. It operates like a European park which are designed to be relaxing, gentle day trips. There are no E-ticket must do rides at these parks that will attract crowds. Crowds are kept low enough that children can ride over and over and over again on their favorite rides. Legoland satisfies a niche market. Young children who don't fully appreciate EPCOT and DHS or even Magic Kingdom yet.

It is not uncommon to hear from parents of children under 8 who visit Disney that the children liked the hotel pool the best.
My mother was planning her yearly vacation. My youngest brother has had very little interest in theme parks but a few weeks ago he stunned the family. He came up and told her "Mommy, I wanna go see the Legos." Not Disney or even WWoHP (even though he loves Disney and HP movies.) just Legoland.

When Legoland Fl officials talk of a multi-day park, I assume they are talking about visiting more than once a year not about staying on property two days in a row.
 
re: LEGOLAND Florida's Future Additions by Sean2012-08-27 17:27:22

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Winter Haven, FL (August 9, 2012) – Local transportation to LEGOLAND® Florida just got easier and it’s free. A bright yellow shuttle bus featuring LEGO® characters can be seen traveling the local streets around Central Florida’s newest theme park. As an added benefit to guests staying in the area, LEGOLAND Florida and three of its local Bed & Brick Preferred Accommodations Partners; Holiday Inn and Hampton Inn of Winter Haven and Hampton Inn of Lake Wales, have teamed up to provide a new shuttle service which will run daily to and from the hotel establishments and the park. With more than 50 rides, shows, attractions and an all-new water park attraction, LEGOLAND Florida provides a great interactive theme park experience for families and now offers transportation to the park stress-free.

“This new shuttle service is one more step toward becoming a multi-day destination. Our strong relationships with our Bed & Brick partners and the benefits we continue to offer guests are key to providing memorable vacations for our families,” said Todd Andrus, Sales Manager at LEGOLAND Florida.
 
re: LEGOLAND Florida's Future Additions by PR2012-08-27 19:07:21

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Hey guys, I get the argument that Legoland Florida is already big, and is pushing a two-day experience as-is... BUT Legoland California, albeit with a more local audience, has expanded every year or two since it's inception. Sure, they could squeeze in attractions here or there, and replace older ones (though I think things are too "new" for that to happen yet... give it a few years, unless they want to move something they just spent capital on). In fact, all the Legoland parks have added things nearly every year for the last decade.

I'm also acknowledging that accommodations make a lot of money, and I see the argument for the "nap time" idea. It would be ideal, yes... but you're paying for the Legoland name/brand, not the location.

I guess I see it as a "have your cake and eat it, too" situation. They can have a branded Legoland hotel AND more room to expand the park when it gets busy (especially if the hotel prompts people to spend more than one day in the park... you're going to need more marquee attractions and things to do in that situation anyway). In that case, no one cares if you have to ride a shuttle to and from the park to do it?
 
re: LEGOLAND Florida's Future Additions by Ed2012-08-29 09:40:27

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LL Florida appears to have already committed to building their resort on the current LL property. To "discuss" if they should or not seems to be a mute point. They will build the resort and they will indeed add more rides and attractions as the years go by. Both will attract guests/attendance and make them money. Yes their land is limited but kiddie attractions don't take much space and years from now both the County and State will cooperate in easing current land use restrictions and easements. All is well, LL Florida is doing very well and the LL Florida future is very bright.

LL Florida in all probability will never build a resort outside their current park and "shuttle" people to it when they already have currently vacant lake front on park property. It is the perfect setting for a resort and in reality it makes the best use of the land. Putting attractions on this land would be in effect wasting the setting and view. They currently have other land in the park for ride/attraction expansion plus a State and County that will work with them in the future to allow them to use more of the "restricted" land. They also have the option in the future if necessary to build a parking garage (like Universal) to free up land (including lake front) for expansion. LL has many future options and no need not to build a high profit margin resort on a perfect lake front setting with no "shuttle" needed. That "no shuttle needed" plus "location, location, location" is what would make the LL resort very attractive to guests and worth the room rate LL is going to charge.

Nice to have Shuart around with opinions, views and ideas I can actually agree with and has the perspective of LL as a children's park for children. Much easier to agree with Shuart then "discuss' with Sean!
 
re: LEGOLAND Florida's Future Additions by LEGOLANDfan2012-09-09 19:22:35

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I have updated the first post an moved the Star Wars Miniland under the 2012 category.
 
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re: LEGOLAND Florida's Future Additions by Greg2012-09-16 17:29:53

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Went today for the first time in a while... They've made a LOT of progress on the Chicken place! Structure is up already...




Star Wars Miniland... Not much progress except that it looks like they're going to use the existing pathways. They've chopped off the sides so they're not "rounded" off now.




Talked to an MC while visiting Duplo for some future Pirate Shores construction. He said they're planning to move the two kiddie rides from Duplo to somewhere else. Not sure if that's true since the map we've seen of the new Pirates area still shows them.

Also talked with Stormer's escort who completely denied being the Princess... "I don't know what you're talking about!" she said coyly. When asked about it (7 times that day she said) her response is that the dragon ate her shoes and can't come out of the Castle. Hey, if she's getting asked about the Princess that much maybe they ought to bring her back? Anyway, she was pretty cool and took this photo of me with Stormer.


Anyway, here's some more shots for your perusal.

Star Wars Miniland Construction Photos.
Chicken Restaurant Construction Photos.
 
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re: LEGOLAND Florida's Future Additions by anon2012-09-30 19:41:34

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The contractors have until NOV or OCT 20 to finish the chicken factory or else they will be penalized every day there late!! Chicken Factory will open before the holidays! It will probably have a Open a lot like panini! There will be indoor seating for 100-150 people and have a patio of 100 and it will be quite similar to Pizza and Pasta but without the buffet setting! So hopefully that should shed some light and the hotel appears to be on hold...I have heard from many supervisors that Pirate land is very true however I hear that they will not be re-themeing pirate cove? To raise another point I have heard from people in very high places that George Lucas will be at LEGOLAND Florida star wars mini land exhibit opening! I have also heard that the acquisition of the hotel across the street is happening and that's why its no longer a best western! Also from what I heard Dino-coaster is getting an expansion! As I find out more things I will let you know and if I see any documents proving it I will be sure to copy it for you guys right know it's just what I have heard!
 
re: LEGOLAND Florida's Future Additions by Greg2012-10-01 20:58:01

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The contractors have until NOV or OCT 20 to finish the chicken factory or else they will be penalized every day there late!! Chicken Factory will open before the holidays! It will probably have a Open a lot like panini! There will be indoor seating for 100-150 people and have a patio of 100 and it will be quite similar to Pizza and Pasta but without the buffet setting! So hopefully that should shed some light
So that's why it's going up so fast...

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I have heard from many supervisors that Pirate land is very true however I hear that they will not be re-themeing pirate cove?
Pretty hard to argue with a fully designed map! But splitting up the Pirate areas... Maybe they want to get their money's worth out of the Lego Pirate costumes or ship?

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To raise another point I have heard from people in very high places that George Lucas will be at LEGOLAND Florida star wars mini land exhibit opening!
Now that would be cool! I actually got to meet him many years ago at Disney-MGM when Star Tours originally opened.

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and the hotel appears to be on hold... I have also heard that the acquisition of the hotel across the street is happening and that's why its no longer a best western!
Hmmm... I hope we find out something soon. I'd really like to have a lakeside resort, but then I'd also like more space for rides too.

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Also from what I heard Dino-coaster is getting an expansion
Expanding the coaster itself would be cool and all, but I don't see how it would be all that worth it. I'd rather have that area behind the coaster developed as a DinoLand (as seen in my drawing.)

Thanks for the intel. Anything else you can provide is greatly appreciated.
 
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re: LEGOLAND Florida's Future Additions by Sean2012-10-03 18:57:12

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I have also heard that the acquisition of the hotel across the street is happening and that's why it's no longer a best western!
I wouldn't automatically jump to the conclusion that the hotel is being acquired by LL since it's no longer in the Best Western francise. All Best Western hotels are independently owned which means the current owner can sell the hotel anytime they want...regardless if they're a Best Western franchisee or not.

From a logistical perspective, I think it would be better to build the Lego Hotel where the Parkview Hotel (formerly the Admiral's Inn) is currently situated. I doubt most kids would care about a lakeside view since their main interest is the lego themeing and resort activities. We'll just have to wait and see what the future holds.
 
re: LEGOLAND Florida's Future Additions by Greg2012-10-05 17:32:24

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The LLF Facebook page just announced the Fried Chicken Co. Looks like a 50's diner!

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re: LEGOLAND Florida's Future Additions by Sean2012-10-05 18:55:28

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It reminds me of the old Sandra Dee's Diner with its 1950s look:
 
re: LEGOLAND Florida's Future Additions by PR2012-10-06 19:05:17

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Also from what I heard Dino-coaster is getting an expansion!


From that, I take it to mean "a transfer track and second train to handle crowds/capacity" and not more track or a longer layout. The same thing has happened to a few coasters around the world like that (see also: Holiday World's Raven and Legend, Lake Compounce's Wildcat, etc).

The logistics of building "more ride" onto a ride like this would be pretty hard to do without making the lift taller. However, adding another train and transfer track would make the most sense and would provide the least downtime for the ride as a whole (and would make me wonder if the same thing would happen to Flight School, too). Who knows though, I could be wrong.
 
re: LEGOLAND Florida's Future Additions by Greg2012-10-14 16:55:25

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The Fried Chicken Co. is progressing nicely. They've got the beginnings of the counters in there now. Looks like it will be a 50's looking fast food place. A different feel than either The Market or the Pizza and Pasta shops.
 
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re: LEGOLAND Florida's Future Additions by shuart242012-10-26 09:34:35

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Orlando Theme Park News says that the Star Wars models have been shipped and has some photos of one of the Shuttles.
 
re: LEGOLAND Florida's Future Additions by Greg2012-10-27 10:56:41

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Yep, hopefully I'll have some spy photos soon!
 
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re: LEGOLAND Florida's Future Additions by Greg2012-10-27 21:53:32

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Yes, another busy day at Legoland Florida! Did I hear someone day the park is always empty and would be closed permanently within 2 years? Yeah, mmm-hmm...


Anyway, got some shots of the latest progress of Star Wars Miniland and the Fried Chicken Co. They are definitely coming along!





Here's some more shots for you.

Star Wars Miniland Construction Photos.
Chicken Restaurant Construction Photos.
 
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re: LEGOLAND Florida's Future Additions by Ed2012-10-30 17:38:35

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I always believed it was a no brainer that LL would be able to attract the small fraction of the Central Florida tourist market that they needed to be successful. They had the name and were going after a niche market they already had success in - a children's park. The attendance, current additions and planned future additions have proved that. Also to me it was a no brainer that LL was never really interested in the historic gardens or "senior market" and would just claim to be for good PR. LL level of upkeep for what is currently open and with sections of the historic gardens still closed - LL has also proved that.

 
re: LEGOLAND Florida's Future Additions by Greg2012-11-10 10:07:13

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Well, as you might know, Lego Star Wars Miniland is complete!





And the Fried Chicken Co. is almost done too. Looks like it will be ready in the next two weeks!


 
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re: LEGOLAND Florida's Future Additions by LEGOLANDfan2012-11-12 19:13:11

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I was there today, and they were working on the landscaping. The restaurant will officially open on November 24, 2012 according to the park!
 
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re: LEGOLAND Florida's Future Additions by LEGOLANDfan2013-01-06 22:01:53

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I just updated the first post to include the most recent rumors and confirmations.
 
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re: LEGOLAND Florida's Future Additions by anon2013-01-10 01:05:01

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The pirate area will no longer get a QS because of budget cuts...Dinosaurs will get a second train really soon! Park attendance is expected to plummet in 2013 because were losing out coolness factor and were using this year to repair and get ready for a busy 2014 and 2015 when we are scheduled to become a multi day resort. Merlin seems to be cutting back on legoland because they are also opening a Sea life and Orlando Eye really soon...This is going to be part of a multi-day resort with them being on iDrive
 
re: LEGOLAND Florida's Future Additions by Greg2013-01-10 14:15:40

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The pirate area will no longer get a QS because of budget cuts...

What's a "QS" ?
 
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re: LEGOLAND Florida's Future Additions by LEGOLANDfan2013-01-11 08:01:22

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I am pretty sure he was referring to the rumored Quick Service Restaurant (abbreviated as QS) that was going to be built as part of the new Pirate's themed area.
 
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re: LEGOLAND Florida's Future Additions by roger2013-01-11 09:04:16

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are they buying parkview hotel
 
re: LEGOLAND Florida's Future Additions by Greg2013-01-11 15:43:42

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are they buying parkview hotel

Rumor is that they at least WANT to buy it, but I haven't heard anything on that yet.
 
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re: LEGOLAND Florida's Future Additions by Ed2013-01-15 17:18:43

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Not sure if you can use the term "multi-day" resort if part of the "resort" is in Winter Haven and the other part is in Orlando on International Drive. More like different attractions owned by the same company in different places. That was the down side of using the old CG site with the very limited land for LL. It makes a real on-site multi-day resort really limited to LL and the water park. Most will leave Winter Haven and get a hotel in Orlando if they wish to visit Sea life and Orlando Eye. That goes against the concept of a true multi-day resort and is a negative to keeping folks for stays past 2 days at a future LL resort hotel. Disney learned from a simular mistake with Dinsey Land making massive land purchases to build Disney World. Disney World is a prime example of a true multi-day resort.

 
re: LEGOLAND Florida's Future Additions by Anon2013-01-16 02:01:28

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Park view is off the table. To costly.

There going to have a bus and hopefully the shuttle service will help make this a multi-day with muti locations lol

More Food and Beverage info

- Coke-cola is in the works!!
- Starbucks is going to replace Aramark!!!
- Pirate burger is being rethemed to a fish restaurant!!!
 
re: LEGOLAND Florida's Future Additions by Greg2013-01-16 10:17:59

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Park view is off the table. To costly.
Yeah, first they'd have to buy it (which would be expensive, no doubt) then they'd have to spend more to have the whole thing rethemed. And it wouldn't help solve the problem of Winter Haven needing more rooms.

It would make more sense (and be less costly) to build and theme their own resort. Then they can make it however they want instead of being constrained to an existing building.

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- Coke-cola is in the works!!
I hope that works out. I can't stand Pepsi!

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- Starbucks is going to replace Aramark!!!
Really? Not a big coffee drinker, but that would give more credibility to the Coffee Shop in the Market Restaurant.

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- Pirate burger is being rethemed to a fish restaurant!!!
Seems to make sense, being pirates and all, but I don't see how they'll sell more fish than hamburgers. Although, I could go for some fish 'n' chips right now...

What they really need to do is restore the Hot Dog cart. The place over by the Big Test used to serve hot dogs, but now it's just slushies. They could use a food outlet in the Technic area, or maybe the new one they're building will have the hot dogs again?
 
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re: LEGOLAND Florida's Future Additions by Ed2013-01-18 09:56:34

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A shuttle bus between Winter Haven and International Drive in Orlando to me as a tourist would be a negative. I would just go to LL and the waterpark for a couple of days then get out of town and head to Orlando to stay if I wanted to go to Sea Life and Orlando Eye. So many more places to stay in Orlando and so many more attractions, restaurants, shops, night life, etc. I think a vast majority of tourists will feel the same way and do the same thing. Just makes more sense and a better use of vacation time.

The distance between Winter Haven and International Drive in Orlando, plus with all Orlando has to offer, just goes against the concept of staying at a LL resort hotel and taking a bus back and forth for a long multi-day LL "resort" experience. I believe a LL resort will get a lot of one or two night stays and then off they go to Orlando. Which is the reality I think LL is aware of but is stuck with due to limited land at the LL site plus without doubt Orlando is a much better market to build Sea Life and Orlando Eye in. The only real "connection" LL will have with Sea Life and Orlando Eye is that they are the same owner but not the same "resort".
 
re: LEGOLAND Florida's Future Additions by Greg2013-04-26 19:45:36

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Something is going in next to the Greenhouse... A stage maybe? Meet-n-Greet area? Lunch area for the kiddies?



More photos in the Construction Gallery.
 
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re: LEGOLAND Florida's Future Additions by LEGOLANDfan2013-04-27 15:31:22

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Great shots, Greg! It's great to see them starting to use the old Plantation Gardens area. They may be putting in some flowers and more exhibits similar to the ones already present inside the Greenhouse. Or it could be a new DVC booth. You never know...
 
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re: LEGOLAND Florida's Future Additions by Project Rumble2013-06-17 14:59:45

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Hearing word this week that 2014's marketable addition will be a waterpark feature. Zero-depth spray ground/play area is my guess. Doubt it will be a big slide or something.
 
re: LEGOLAND Florida's Future Additions by Greg2013-06-28 23:11:07

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Hm... Not much room to do anything at the WP. Maybe a slide in that area where the First Aid building is.
 
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re: LEGOLAND Florida's Future Additions by chobeetuck 12013-06-29 02:50:52

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Greg they took down that cell tower you loved by the first aid in the water park
 
re: LEGOLAND Florida's Future Additions by Greg2013-06-29 18:40:57

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Greg they took down that cell tower you loved by the first aid in the water park

Nice! I was at the WP today, but happily didn't notice it was missing! Maybe that means they WILL use that area for expansion? There's enough room over there to add some more slides.
 
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re: LEGOLAND Florida's Future Additions by LEGOLANDfan2013-10-23 12:49:40

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I added a few rumors to the first post based on observations during my last visit to the park.
 
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re: LEGOLAND Florida's Future Additions by Project Rumble2013-11-19 15:51:27

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At IAAPA today, and saw the new train for Coastersarus from GCI. Looks nice but I didn't get more details.
 



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